Yoruba not Islamic or mecca in origin.
(Backings from Ifa university)
I have heard several time by individuals making assertion that oduduwa oriental origin is mecca not ile-ife.
Yoruba are not immigrant, Nigeria is their native land . If Oduduwa came from Mecca, in what language was he communicating with the people he met in Ile Ife? What language were the peoples whose leaders were Obatala , Ogun , Laroye , and etc speaks?
If Odu is the sacred text.. The point where life descended to Earth was Ile Ife and that was never Mecca. Orunmila went East and taught them Ifa not the other way around. Its sad to me when people want to connect Yoruba to East. Research your own archeology and you will find artifacts that existed before the Eastern civilization..Even if we accept (hypothetically) the scientific assumptions that date earliest traces of Yoruba presence between 500 and 700 BC, based on lack of written evidence, not indicating that the city was empty before that, the story that Yoruba came from Mecca I after oduduwa supposedly clashed with Muslims there is dismiss-able.
If you look at the historical timing of the establishment of mecca and
ile ife you will see that this is impossible.
Mohammed died in the mid 600 s. Mecca wasn’t even conquered by Islamists prior to late 600s/early
700s. Give it another few years to establish itself as a Muslim bastion with enough significant Islam
practice to clash over, we are in the early 700s now. Now, let’s say oduduwa was really there and
clashed with Muslims at that time, and led Yoruba to the west .
In a time where you wouldn’t get on a plane and reallocate a entire nation within a few hours, the
man had to
1) mobilize his people ,
2) organize resources for the trip ,
3 ) travel across a continent, by foot, horse or camels, taking livestock, women, infants, kids and
elders….and then even battle against enemies on the way, and eventually find the location of ile ife,
settle, build houses and government, and other traceable signs of so defined civilisation ..how long does that take ?
YEARS AND DECADES.
Let’s say it took ten or twenty years for that entire process, even if less than that, it’s chronologically
and physically impossible to be in two places at the same time, because – as far as contemporary
methods of tracing go- mecca was conquered after or at the same time as Yoruba had established a fully functioning civilization in ile ife. I really have problems with stories that aim to portray Yoruba as on offshoot of a non-African culture, as much as I oppose the lies that civilization was born in the middle east, when all scientific evidence points at the fact that the center of mother Africa, the SPRING is of the Nile valley (not even khemet or sheeba, because they came after) , from the center of the African continent. All subsequent civilisations are traced back to this part of Africa, which is black
africa. From there development traveled north to establish cultures along the Nile , and westwards.
That’s probably the route oduduwa took, but people planted a lot of false (and meanwhile scientifically
debunked info) to deny any idea that all human civilization erupted in black africa.
Egocentric historians white washed human history for the longest , acting as if there was nothing
before “Egypt” ( presented with European features) or Babylon, because they could rather accept that their own civilisation came from middle eastern people than from blacks that they portrayed as
inferior and wanted to keep it that way. Thanks to consistent findings in central African regions, there
is proof that this region is the cradle of civilisation.
I assume the Muslim story around oduduwa was told due to similar motivations. They were looking
at a well established civilization in ile ife and the oyo kingdom, displaying a complexity of society
that was not very common at that time. What do they do ? Well, if we look at what they always did is
, first thing, deny that blacks could build such physical and social structures by themselves, and
attribute their achievements to anther people, even if we have to credit a bunch of arabs in Mecca
( which didn’t even exist as such yet!!!) With their civilization. I don’t know if Europeans or Muslims
invented those stories. I’m sure they’re are a result of cultural envy, and racial supremacy issues, but
the timing doesn’t work and reveals the Mecca story as nonsense.
I have heard several time by individuals making assertion that oduduwa oriental origin is mecca not ile-ife.
Yoruba are not immigrant, Nigeria is their native land . If Oduduwa came from Mecca, in what language was he communicating with the people he met in Ile Ife? What language were the peoples whose leaders were Obatala , Ogun , Laroye , and etc speaks?
If Odu is the sacred text.. The point where life descended to Earth was Ile Ife and that was never Mecca. Orunmila went East and taught them Ifa not the other way around. Its sad to me when people want to connect Yoruba to East. Research your own archeology and you will find artifacts that existed before the Eastern civilization..Even if we accept (hypothetically) the scientific assumptions that date earliest traces of Yoruba presence between 500 and 700 BC, based on lack of written evidence, not indicating that the city was empty before that, the story that Yoruba came from Mecca I after oduduwa supposedly clashed with Muslims there is dismiss-able.
If you look at the historical timing of the establishment of mecca and
ile ife you will see that this is impossible.
Mohammed died in the mid 600 s. Mecca wasn’t even conquered by Islamists prior to late 600s/early
700s. Give it another few years to establish itself as a Muslim bastion with enough significant Islam
practice to clash over, we are in the early 700s now. Now, let’s say oduduwa was really there and
clashed with Muslims at that time, and led Yoruba to the west .
In a time where you wouldn’t get on a plane and reallocate a entire nation within a few hours, the
man had to
1) mobilize his people ,
2) organize resources for the trip ,
3 ) travel across a continent, by foot, horse or camels, taking livestock, women, infants, kids and
elders….and then even battle against enemies on the way, and eventually find the location of ile ife,
settle, build houses and government, and other traceable signs of so defined civilisation ..how long does that take ?
YEARS AND DECADES.
Let’s say it took ten or twenty years for that entire process, even if less than that, it’s chronologically
and physically impossible to be in two places at the same time, because – as far as contemporary
methods of tracing go- mecca was conquered after or at the same time as Yoruba had established a fully functioning civilization in ile ife. I really have problems with stories that aim to portray Yoruba as on offshoot of a non-African culture, as much as I oppose the lies that civilization was born in the middle east, when all scientific evidence points at the fact that the center of mother Africa, the SPRING is of the Nile valley (not even khemet or sheeba, because they came after) , from the center of the African continent. All subsequent civilisations are traced back to this part of Africa, which is black
africa. From there development traveled north to establish cultures along the Nile , and westwards.
That’s probably the route oduduwa took, but people planted a lot of false (and meanwhile scientifically
debunked info) to deny any idea that all human civilization erupted in black africa.
Egocentric historians white washed human history for the longest , acting as if there was nothing
before “Egypt” ( presented with European features) or Babylon, because they could rather accept that their own civilisation came from middle eastern people than from blacks that they portrayed as
inferior and wanted to keep it that way. Thanks to consistent findings in central African regions, there
is proof that this region is the cradle of civilisation.
I assume the Muslim story around oduduwa was told due to similar motivations. They were looking
at a well established civilization in ile ife and the oyo kingdom, displaying a complexity of society
that was not very common at that time. What do they do ? Well, if we look at what they always did is
, first thing, deny that blacks could build such physical and social structures by themselves, and
attribute their achievements to anther people, even if we have to credit a bunch of arabs in Mecca
( which didn’t even exist as such yet!!!) With their civilization. I don’t know if Europeans or Muslims
invented those stories. I’m sure they’re are a result of cultural envy, and racial supremacy issues, but
the timing doesn’t work and reveals the Mecca story as nonsense.
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